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8-8008: Understanding the Phenomena

A lecture give by L. Ron Hubbard at the 11 December 1952A Lecture given by L. Ron Hubbard on the 11 December 1952

All right, let’s go in for something here on this third hour of December 11th, afternoon. Let’s go in for something very much more specific. And I’m going to give you your straight rundown on this quite rapidly on this page 38, List of Processing.

This is the lecture of December 11th, first hour afternoon. And we have here a few little things, odds and ends that we should button up about this and that.

„All processes are based upon the original observation that an individual could have implanted in him by hypnosis and removed at will any obsession or aberration, compulsion, desire, inhibition which you could think of – by hypnosis.“ Hypnosis, then, was the wild variable; sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn’t work. It worked on some people; it didn’t work on other people.

Got a textbook, SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008. And the actual truth of the matter is that uh… your text is a highly precise rundown – highly precise from the standpoint of very little space devoted to anything. The data is there, but has about the same adroitness as a Browning machine gun. It uh… just says, „fact, fact, fact, fact, fact, fact, fact, fact.“ And uh… it disposes of, on page 38, all past methods of processing, in the following paragraphs – 38, „Methods of running. There are many methods of running – facsimiles and handling ridges and flows. These have been covered in other publications. All of them have validity and can advance cases.

Any time you have a variable that is as wild as this, study it. The essence of solving problems is the essence of solving one against the other: the highest certainty that you can reach, versus the most variable thing you could reach.

„In the present publication there are only two processes which are stressed and these processes are superior to others published prior to December 1st, 1952.

Well, I had a high certainty already – I had survival. Got that in

„A great many tests have established the fact that two processes, both of them simple, produce far better results than any of the others.

1938 or before that. And uh… I’d studied the endocrine system and structure at will. Oh, just… oh, just studied it and studied it and studied it. I spent a year doing nothing but studying the endocrine system, trying to find out if anybody know what happened to the endocrine system. The British solved the endocrine system better than the Americans had. And it was a… really some kind of an alarm, or monitoring system of the body. But it did not respond to matter. It couldn’t be monitored very much by matter, but boy, could it be monitored by mind.

„The title SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008 means the attainment of… of infinity by the reduction of the MEST universe as apparent infinity to zero, and the increase of the zero of one’s own universe to an infinity of one’s own universe.

Wooo! You could take somebody and you could remove a compulsion or an inhibition and his endocrine balance would just go Zing! – way up along the line. Or you could hypnotize him and selectively repress, if you please, almost any gland he had. And then knock that repression out and turn the repression on again. Handle it at will with direct command and hypnosis. That’s function, you understand. And you could feed him hormones and you could feed him anything else you could think of and you couldn’t materially change his behavior.

„This road is attained by postulate processing and creative processing. To run any incident or use any process, it is necessary for the auditor to have a very sound idea of what he is doing; and to this end it is recommended that he know and be able to use the following processes.

So I had solved the basic problem of what did you study? Structure or function? If it had been function, I would have gone into function on an engineering level and uh… tried to knock the problem apart from that angle. It turned out that wasn’t it. It was: structure was uh… not the answer or the road to an answer because you couldn’t do anything with structure. You could use the most rigorous tests you could set up and observe as close as you wanted to, and nothing happened. Nobody’d ever tried to do this before in the history of the examination of man. I want you to understand that that job had not been done.

„Processing. The code, the theta entity, the entities, running engrams, running secondaries, running locks, concepts and feelings, running ridges, circuits, running live flow, freeing the thetan by concept and feeling, freeing the thetan by present and future randomity, freeing by dichotomies, freeing by tone scale, freeing the thetan by orientation, freeing the thetan by positioning and exhaustion of flows.“

Nobody divided the problem into two halves – structure, function – and had then selectively taken each one of these halves and seen if you could monitor structure and function by treating just one half of it.

End of paragraph. The next one is, „Postulate Processing,“ which is one of the things.

In other words, could you change structure and function by handling only structure? That was a question that should have been asked. And then, could you handle structure and function by handling only function?

Now uh… it’s… it’s what you call… what you call the amount of space occupied here. There’s 38 – that’s about two-thirds of the page. Uh… the amount of data that really occupies that small two-thirds of a page there has been the subject of, let us say, oh, I should say offhand, a million and a half words, two million written words – something like that. And I don’t know how many words of lectures.

Well, you have to break a problem down before it can become a problem, so maybe nobody even know there was a problem here. But certainly, there weren’t any answers to it. I don’t make any reservations on that. Louis Pasteur’s work is a shining example of uh… accuracy in a field which is otherwise just flop. Uh… even Pasteur, he should have looked a little closer. He had all the tools to look with.

Now if you want to go over this and look it over step by step, it is pretty important that you have some conversance with this, because an auditor will start running some sort of a… he’ll just run postulates and all of a sudden, boom! Or he’ll all of a sudden start running mock-ups. Or he’ll suddenly start going through exercises of lifting and Boom! There’ll be phenomena lying there. And he’ll think he’s looking at something that is just – oh boy! I mean gosh!

What happens to an experimenter or an investigator is something very interesting. He becomes so convinced… he becomes so convinced that he has to be right, that he doesn’t bother to look. There’s a good dissertation on this – Will Durant once wrote a beautiful dissertation on this – they find something and then they’ve got to rush around like mad and wave this thing around and never look any further.

„You mean when you start to lift uh… the lifting exercises and so on, with… with… with energy, you… you mean that… and… and the preclear’s got a log across his legs?“ And he’ll say, „That’s very funny. Log across his’ legs. Now let’s see. I know some about Freudian symbolism and uh… log across his legs, this is probably uh… ear envy. And uh… uh… let’s see now. That probably associates itself in some fashion or another as… it’s a… you said it’s a log?“

They want to hit an action spot, accomplish it, and there they go. In other words, they’re running on a very short cycle. As soon as they start something, they’ve got to stop it. You’ve got to run on a long cycle to tackle a long problem like this.

And the fellow said, „Yeah, yeah. It’s a log. The log’s. lying right here across my legs and that’s why I can’t lift one of my legs.“ „Let’s see now uh… oh, it’s a log! It’s got bark on it.“ „Yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah!“ „Oh, you don’t like dogs. Okay here we go.“

So, here you had all these people running around – they… oh, operating and chopping and shooting people with things and… and oh God! on and on and on and on and on – without ever having taken the problem apart.

Now that can be the subject of a long dissertation about the fact… they always start in this way. The squirrels are wonderful. They spend two seconds observing, uh… five minutes contemplating the glories of having observed, and then many months talking about the phenomena.

Well, all it required was, we took the problem apart, just compartmented it. All right, we find out… oh boy! were there some crews operating on this! There were a lot of people working on this. How do you change mental behavior and structural action by treating structure? Oh, they were shooting… they had people out of these Japanese prison camps and so forth, and they were shooting them and they were giving them narcosynthesis uh… and doing all sorts of weird things in various directions. And it all boiled down to a structural address to the problem.

But uh… nowhere along this track do you find very much data. And… and I would be the subject of many letters uh… long letters describing this log across the preclear’s legs. That’s… that’s right – I mean, this has happened time after time. This falls into the band of facsimiles and it would fall into the category of probably a past-life facsimile.

Well, to an engineer it’s appalling for anybody to work on a problem… to even work on a problem if he doesn’t even have the design. „Let… let’s work on this thing before we answer the question „What’s it for?“ – you know?

We were trying one exercise last night, Nibs and I, just fooling around, and so forth. We were knocking facsimiles into view faster than any auditor has ever been able to locate them in the past, by doing what? By trying to lift his ankle, that’s all. He was lying down, he was just trying to lift his ankle, he was fooling around with it rather arduously by snapping anchor points around – just interesting stuff. And first he found (you don’t mind my mentioning this) uh… first he found three corpsmen holding him down in a tonsillectomy and he blew them through the roof. And uh… then he found a log across his legs and uh… blew that out. And then he found eight times when that leg had been fractured, and uh… four times when the other leg had been fractured. And uh… that’s all back along the track somewhere.

It sounds so idiotic to an engineer. We say, „What’s it for?“

These… these facsimiles just kept flying off, flying off. Of course, he couldn’t lift his leg because of all these facsimiles.

And they say, „Well, there isn’t any reason for it and there’s no goals. We’re all in apathy anyhow and it doesn’t matter. And the problem’s too complex.“

Well now, uh… the way he handles facsimiles, of course, he says, „Look, another picture“ and uh… pitches it out the nearest window, or… or uh… makes it disappear down the time track or something.

You ever ask somebody about this: „How about working on the problem of the mind, trying to do something about the problem of the mind?“ „Well, that’s too complex.“ You say, „Rut you’re working on the problem of the mind.“

But uh… preclears that you’re working uh… initially don’t have this skill. They… they… they say, „A log across the leg – okay. My agreement with the MEST universe says if I have a picture of a log across the leg, then I have a picture of a log across the leg, that isn’t a picture of a log across the leg, that’s actually a log. Therefore I pick up the weight factors in that log which is lying across the leg and I pick up all the other perceptics I had and let’s not forget the emotion on the thing. Ah, I’d better feel like I’m dying. Okay, here I go.“

„Well yes, I know. But it’s too complex – there’s no s… real solution to it.“

And you could sit there and snap your fingers over this preclear for some time uh… insisting that he get this log across his legs by uh… get it off or on and so forth, in order to handle the facsimile.

In other words, you’re in a complete defeatism on the problem. Well, how does anybody ever solve a problem if he knows it can’t be solved as his first postulate? Nuts to you brother! And I didn’t realize that it was even… it was that bad for a long time. I… I just found out it was that bad just increasingly. I started out first believing that there were a lot of people who were doing something on this. All right.

Well, of course, you’re handling the facsimile to get it into position so that it can be run. A person who cannot run a facsimile is simply unable to get the facsimile into the position where it can be run. That is, he could not move a picture before him, behind him, above him, below him and into last week. You get the idea? That’s why he can’t get the facsimile to run – it’s very simple. We’ll just short-circuit all that. You… you… you just get the person so that he can handle a facsimile, or handle a picture, handle mock-ups and pictures in this fashion – make them appear and disappear and increase and decrease and turn upside-down and the content changed. And uh… the next thing you know, why you’ve got yourself a nice smooth uh… facsimile there that uh… can be picked up and thrown out the window – it doesn’t have to be run. If… if you can orient it to this degree, well why run it? The guy’s handling it, isn’t he? And if his handling uh… is of this nature, why uh… let it go. Increase his ability to handle it.

I turned around and I had hypnotism. I had a little advantage there because I was using hypnotism that I had learned in India. And that doesn’t bear too much resemblance to Western hypnotism. You’ve got variety of hypnotism there. There are ninety thousand ways of putting a guy out – I swear there must be that many ways. I mean, you can just run on and on and on. There’s various things you do; you treat the perceptic lines in certain ways and guys go „Ka-boom!“

Now just above that level, you’ll start picking up the agreements which are sub to a postulate but are sort of a postulate. It’s… it’s… a postulate is something the fellow himself makes, and an agreement would be his co-postulating or his agreement with somebody else’s postulate. That is, acceptance of somebody else’s illusion which would be, of course, delusion for him.

For instance, I had a… very amusing one time; I talked to the staff at Saint Elizabeth’s. If you can place somebody in time and space – we can put it out now – if you can place somebody in time and space with great accuracy and then put a monotony on it, damnedest things happen.

Now uh… therefore uh… an auditor who doesn’t know the basic manifestations and what can happen uh… can have these things sort of fly into his face and get in his road and upset him and all that sort of thing. They’re liable to think all sorts of things.

So I talked to these people from Saint Elizabeth’s, a spin-bin down around Washington, talked to the staff. And I was very careful to talk to the staff in a certain way – and put ‘em to sleep.

If they haven’t seen some of these things in operation, they don’t know they are there, and believe me, they’ll start to use an innocent little gimmickahoojit like… like mock-up processing. And all of a sudden Boom! Boom! Boom! There’ll be all sorts of phenomena. Now here’ll come… all of a sudden the preclear’s… you can practically see his hair standing straight back. And… and you say, „I wonder what’s happened? I wonder what’s happened? I mean, I’ve never seen anything like this. It must be some sort of an electrical disturbance in his vicinity someplace. And I just saw his hair standing up and – and uh… that’s very interesting because that lightning bolt that keeps flashing there uh… between his hands uh… certainly should…“

Uh… hypnosis bears a considerable resemblance to sleep and a person knows… any auditor knows when he’s dealing with a hypnotic subject. Any auditor should know something about hypnosis because it’s a very standard set of something or other. There are various things that will happen. The breathing will become shallow, and uh… the next thing that happens is their eyes will roll back up in their heads, like that, or roll down like this. And their eyelids will go flicker, flicker, flicker, flicker, flicker. And uh… if you do anything that makes people do that, and you’ve got them hypnotized, that’s all.

„Let’s write an article for the American Medical Association for this and… and say that electricity, when used on a preclear, is very bad because the electricity which goes through an E-Meter uh… seems to build up somehow and uh… gets up to the level of developing lightning bolts. And uh… this is what happens with E-meters and this is what E-meters do.“

There’s various methods used. You just capture their perceptic line and you’re the only one in whom they’re on agreement. You’ve just separated their agreement from the rest of the world and they think you’re the only one, see? Very simple.

You see, he could draw a completely different conclusion. He every once in a while will get ligh… get lightning bolts shooting around the place. Or he’ll just have some simple mock-up… have this girl – „Oh, you’ve got a headache? Well, have this beautiful girl stand behind your head.“ You see, you can use mock-up processing without theta clearing somebody and you can knock out chronic somatics boom! – boom!

Then be careful never to remind them that there’s any other part of the world with which to agree – don’t do as I do here. I talk about this field and that field and some other field. And it spots it around, and it requires… you… you go all over the doggoned space area, see? Well, that keeps people awake, and it keeps them alert and they keep learning. Otherwise they just get to be a phonograph record. You could just turn them on and they go „Yap-yap-yap-yap-yap-yap-yap“ and they run the whole lecture off verbatim and they haven’t got anything there at all. All right. Now hypnotism could then selectively vary structure. Anybody for the last 120 years could have carried out this research project. This is not a special project and it’s not anything unroutine. This was carried out as a routine piece of research. Routine.

You say, „All right, mock up this beautiful girl and have her stand behind your head – you have a nice headache there – and then have her… have her patting your head. That’s fine, now have her come around to the front of you and sort of stroke your hair down on that side. That’s fine. Now have her move around to the side of you and put a green gown on her and have her pull off a small section of the skull, quietly and pleasantly, to find the headache. Oh, yes, yes. Now have her sew it up real good so that it won’t get away. And now have her turn your head back and forth.“

What do you do to a problem to solve it? First you ask the question. Before that you have to assume there’s probably a solution. No reason to work on problems if you don’t think there’s any solution. You just assume there’s a solution, then you go ahead and solve ‘em.

And the fellow will say, „Say, you know, there seems to be some kind of an electrical storm going on around here.“ What you’re doing is blowing a ridge like mad, see. I mean, you’re not… you’re not just talking about this beautiful girl.

And then you take the bodies of data that you have and you cut them up in compartments and make sure that the compartments don’t get confused on you. In this case, we cut up structure and function; we didn’t say, „What are we going to use this bridge for?“ and then neglect completely uh… how… what we were going to build it out of. And we didn’t uh… we… we… we… we chopped the problem in half, in other words, so that each half would be all: structure down to function and structure. Function down to function and structure. One or the other probably did it. It certainly wasn’t both, although it could be this third one – it’s a team. Does it respond to teamwork? The hell it does!

The physical universe says, „Agree with me! Agree with me! Please! Please! Please! I’ll give you the seas, the stars, everything if you’ll just agree with me and… and uh… uh…“ That’s its latter stages. Its earlier stages, it says, „Oh, you’re disagreeing with me. Well, I’m going to ruin hell out of you.“ And it starts saying „Rowrr!“

Guys sick and dying and brokenhearted and insane and unable to heal their bodies and everything else, so it isn’t working as a team.

Well, any one of these things can result in lightning bolts passing from the left hand to the right hand. Any one of these things can result in… in fabulous manifestations, which are fabulous if you don’t know what they are, and they’re really very simple.

All right, then therefore, they’re probably separate functions. So let’s… let’s see if we can solve it that way. Hypnotism varied the hell out of the endocrine system; the endocrine system apparently was some kind of a meter. You could look at this meter called the „endocrine system“ and you could tell whether something was happening to somebody.

So, when you start to do mock-up processing, don’t think you’re avoiding handling – you’re NOT avoiding handling. You’re not doing, mock-up processing in order to make these manifestations occur. You’re doing mock-up processing to make all such manifestations stop occurring for ever more until the end of time, such as ridges blowing, flows running, facsimiles jumping up and getting out of line, uh… locks being picked up, people getting upset because this and that happens to ‘em. You’re just ending this sort of thing.

So if you varied their mind, you varied their structure. Oh boy! Could you vary their structure. You could take hypnosis and you could selectively shut off, by knowing what these glands influenced, you could shut off that function in the individual.

Y… and the sooner you can bring it to a full halt… I’ll have to stop… stop talking about smoking brakes. Every time we were running an incident last night with Nibs, he got brake smoke because he’d stopped himself from going in some direction or another. Room got practically loaded with it. Wasn’t good lining he was using either. He’s had some kind of a scarcity complex or other – cheap lining.

You know you can hypnotize somebody and tell him his nose is running? And… and his nose is running. You can just get torrents of mucus running out of his head, just torrents. He could just take handkerchief after handkerchief after handkerchief, and he’ll just get them sopping. You can start a person perspiring on command, and he’ll sweat and sweat and sweat. You can turn him hot; you can turn him cold; you can extend his hearing; you can contract his hearing. You can do anything of these with hypnotism. And boy, it’s just no good at all to find out what something’s wrong with somebody because they’re non compis mentis when they’re hypnotized. They’re just an effect.

Anyway, uh… the… the list of phenomena should be at an auditor’s fingertips and should be easily identified by him, so that he never turns a hair. And I’ve just given you here a… really, a list of phenomena which is covered EXHAUSTIVELY in past processes. It’s just covered. There’s just ways of running this… this – Oh, my God! The last time I got uh… a small count of the number of surefire, positive, handy jim-dandy little techniques for handling black and white flows, I had over 80 techniques.

But you set up this thing and you use this and you use it as a meter – a specialized form of use of the structure/function mechanism of the human body. You become the mind, let them be the structure and the somatic mind, or something of the sort.

And somebody wrote in the other day and said, „You know, I have a technique for handling black and white flows.“ Boy, that’s just… that… that’s… that’s like… that’s like uh… uh… taking a cubic foot of smoke to Pittsburgh – just pointless.

Now, can we vary it? Boy, can we vary it! We can make guys fat, we can make guys thin. We can do all sorts of things if you use good hypnotism. But we can’t do it all the time. Why the hell can’t we do it all the time? We find out in the field of structure we can never do it – that’s advisedly stated. It’s just never.

Now I have no doubt that there exist somewhere in that – in man or in beingness – types of things which have not been cataloged adequately, since this was not a cataloging job at any time; it was an action research. And it wasn’t a research. It was the first look. And it was just action – there it is, how do we handle it? „Why does he act that way?“ „Oh, here’s 8 reasons why he acts this way.“ „How many ways can we get to solve these?“ „Oh, we’ve got 52 reasons for every one of the 8.“ „Okay.“

Take the structural approach of electric shock, that’s structural. They give people electric shock. Do you know they haven’t got a record of electric shock ever doing anything for anybody? There isn’t any record. But they do have a record that says that if they didn’t give people electric shocks, they get out of institutions six weeks earlier.

And that was about the kind of research it was. It wasn’t saying, „Now, let’s carefully make a big, big catalog here: specimen 872 – Engrams when they are on the left-hand port quarter of the starboard side of the ruddy-rods uh… have in them, when they contain sonic perceptics, 1.682 ohms of resistance when in the proximity of…“ I mean, no scientist did this job.

You know that these figures were never collected? You want to know about criminal acts against humanity – go ahead and practice something without ever getting any statistics – hmmmm. That’s interesting, isn’t it?

See, that’s very obvious. It’s very obvious because there’s no catalog goes along with it. But there are frames of thinking which include all this phenomena. And you’re getting here, actually, when we take a rundown on this, frameworks of existence of phenomena. Something is going to fall in… well, if you find something it’ll fall into one of these baskets.

You know that I have the only survey that was ever impartially – and it was really impartially – done on the subject of electric shock. And I hired a guy to do it. He was not interested in Dianetics; he was not interested in psychiatry. He was an investigation publication man and all we did was get all the results there were on the subject of electric shock, wherever they were published by anyone, anywhere. And we collected them all together and drew them up on charts. Didn’t cast any evaluation on them at all, just drew them on the charts to see what the statistics would say. And I’ve just given you the results. We couldn’t find a case anywhere – just a case nowhere – where electric shock had ever improved anybody.

Now uh… it’ll fall into the baskets of pictures uh… in motion or in black and white or in color, which are still or motion pictures. And uh… they will fall into the catalog… that’s they contain all perceptics and there are over a hundred perceptics in each one of these pictures – it’s quite remarkable.

We couldn’t even find out where it had selectively quieted people down. We found out that there was a „three-day period“ in electric shock. You gave them a shock every three days; they stayed very tractable, you know – „Duhhh!“

And that catalog or that frame expands out, then, to embrace what? Energy. Okay, I mean… and we’re right there on the common denominator. And when we start to handle energy we run into the framework of space. And so it falls into these categories.

Now anybody can make a corpse. You can do it with a bullet, but you don’t call bullets therapeutic. You see? So we had to define what’s therapeutic. But you say you can make the person better. Well, did it calm him down and make him happy or anything? No, definitely not.

Now the second we look at an object – „Arthritic knee“ – we know that we will find on it dammed up flows, energy not free somehow to run, we’ll find the preclear out of communication with it – we’ve got ARC – he’s out of communication with his own leg. And we could solve this in several ways. We can just hire a couple of… of gremlins uh… and uh… get the preclear to hire ‘em, and string some telegraph wire uh… down through to that knee. Or we could install pump mechanisms and uh… and all sorts of things in order to get circulation flowing through the knee again. That’s one of the most interesting mock-ups is to get somebody working on something like an arthritic knee.

It gave him a terror of electricity, though. Fixed him up so he wouldn’t use force in any category, made him shed all responsibility for everything. Uh… did interesting things.

„All right, let’s mock up… now let’s mock up a… a pneumatic drill. Okay. We’ve got that pneumatic drill? Now let’s start busting up some pavement with it. Okay. Now let’s move the pavement around back of your back and start busting it up back there. All right.“

You can rehabilitate an electric shock – by the way, the way you repair elec… electric shocks aren’t serious… the way you repair it is just rehabilitate the guy’s ability to mock-up force, that’s all. You don’t even address the electric shocks. He’ll feel a buzz in his head once in a while when you’re doing this, and you just keep mocking up force – standard routine mock-up processing. Electric shock is simply electricity.

„Now let’s move it up above your head and start breaking it up there, and let’s change the pneumatic drill to one of these great big widow-makers, the kind they take cliffs down with, you know? And let’s start busting up pavement with that. All right. You’re gettin’ that. And you see it’s falling down on you. Well,’ take one of those pieces – now make it fall upwards.“ We’ve finally accomplished that. Put it down below his feet and that sort of thing, and then put the whole thing into yesterday. He can’t put it into yesterday so we go to some gradient scale and we take a toothpick and we put that into yesterday. We take all kinds of things that have no real value and we put those into yesterday. We make them disappear.

First thing you know – Room! There goes all the electric shocks in the bank. They don’t go suddenly or anything. They just cease to have any effect upon him. So they are really pantywaist when it came to hurting people too. They weren’t even tough enough to hurt people. Prefrontal lobotomy? Fix the guy up so he gets another body.

Then we find out if he’s making them disappear by dropping black curtains over them or stopping looking at them. Uh… and we solve that by letting him put lots of black curtains over them, and so forth, and still pick it up and find out it’s still there. You’ll find out after a while it’s still there unless he makes it disappear.

Uh… okay. Now uh… they’re not dangerous. I talk about it merely because it’s a…

And uh… we… we then drill him, „How do you know you had breakfast in 1932?“

There… there’s only one thing that really outrages me. I… I get outraged just because I can’t believe it. It just won’t fit into the frame uh… uh of reasoning. It… It’s just one of those things that I’ve always been completely unable to see, is why can’t somebody solve that problem? Uh… this… these problems are all easy, they’re just… just so easy. And yet, something like… you… there’s somebody… he’s in… he’s in bad trouble, see? He’s in bad trouble – he’s starving to death. He… he’s… he hasn’t got anything to eat and he’s getting skin and bone and there he sits. And all that he’s got in front of him is a whole ham and loaves of bread and so forth. And he’s unable to solve the problem of how to get it into his mouth.

The fellow says, „Well, I’m still alive.“

You say, „No! That’s complete idiocy!“

And uh… in other words, we solve time right on the spot. The first moment that we find out there is something flukey about him making things disappear, we just go on a gradient scale of havingness. We… we get him drilled until he can have or not have a picture, or have or not have an object.

So you go at that problem. Anybody who wants to backtrack on that work will find them very interesting material on it. And that’s covered rather full in Book One. It tells the various things you can do to somebody to stop this and start that. So it means what? That there’s some kind of a mechanism by which, if you can get some guy to agree, why then anything can happen. You could make him believe anything if he’ll agree with it. Haaaa! Hmmmm! He has to be in a special state.

Now the worst gradient scale of the whole thing is to actually give him a toothpick, a MEST universe toothpick, and say, „Okay, you got this MEST universe toothpick?“ And he’ll look at it and he’ll say, „Yes.“

All of a sudden you just take a look at the human race – we’re trying to unhypnotize people. We’re trying to wake people up, and it’s simply that: we’re trying to make them higher and higher alert.

And… and… and, „All right, now. Take it over and throw it out the window.“

I… I dare say someday we may have a process which… by which some magical formula or other we simply say… we simply say, „All right, now here you are in a hypnotized state with regard to life and existence, and you’re in a little bit better, more awake condition at this moment than you ordinarily are, but there’s a much awaker condition than this, and the way you awaken somebody out of this condition is to count from five to one and snap your fingers. And if you count from five to one and snap your fingers, a person wakes all the way up. Now when I count from five to one and snap my fingers, you will awake. Five, four, three, two, one – wake up!“ The guy comes into full consciousness. There might be such a… such a process. It would head in that direction.

Do you know how many preclears won’t do it? They’re really psycho when they won’t do that. They’ve got a toothpick and it might have some value, it might be connected to something or other, and so the best thing to do with this toothpick is sort of stick it in your pocket.

By the way, you once in a while do that to a preclear and he gets very startled. „Doiing! The lights just turned up!“ Something like this. All right.

Some of them, real, real bad ones, won’t even give it back to the auditor. That’s just a gradient scale of things disappearing, you see. Time is just a trick method of making something disappear.

So that’s the kind of modus operandi in which we worked and out of this we discovered something which you can use today. There is a gimmick in the environment called a restimulator. You give a guy an hypnotic implant and you tell him to play with his tie. You tell him any time you play with your tie, he’ll do so and so and then you wake him up. So you adjust your tie, and he does so and so. And pretty soon he says, „I wonder what I’m doing this for? Well, I explain it this way…“ And he’s got some wild explanation that has no bearing on your tie.

Time is havingness, and when time i… goes along the line you get changingness in havingness – I mean you get alteration in havingness, and… or you can make something disappear. Well, you get anything to alter enough, you can get it altered small enough until he can’t see it. And then you say, „Hey, it disappeared, didn’t it?“

For instance, you’ve said, „Every time I touch my tie,“ when he’s hypnotized, „every time I touch my tie, you will now… you will cough.“

„Oh, no,“ he said, „I finally did it.“

Okay. So every time you touch your tie he says, „Aha-ahum,“ he says, „awfully drafty out, don’t you think?“

Uh… that just… just run him onto that basis and then the next thing you know uh… what… what do you… what do you do with this arthritic knee? Well, it hasn’t got any circulation in it or something of the sort. So we take a knee uh… uh… any kind of a knee, and we put it way out there – can’t get a knee. So take an elbow. Work with this elbow until we finally take this pneumatic drill which he already knows how to use and bust… and then case the elbow in concrete and then break the concrete off the elbow. And just go through gradient steps like this until we finally have… up the line we finally have, oh, probably, great big pumps and uh… all sorts of prevention mechanisms installed, mechanical devices of all kinds and descriptions, doctors standing around in attendance, mechanics standing around in attendance on the machinery, uh… hot and cold running waitresses standing around to serve tea to the mechanics uh… all of this stuff.

And you say……

And we’ve got this, and the… and the person finally says, „You know, the hell with this knee.“ You know how fast that knee will go away? Just blink… just in a blink, if you do it right.

And he says, „Aha-ahum.“ Fascinating. And he just keeps this up and you finally wear the button out.

Yeah, everybody knows it takes a long time for arthritis to go away. But if you’ve done a proper job on the thing, it’s gone, „blink“. And it might come back tomorrow, a little bit of it, you know? Just take him and renew all this machinery and make it much better and uh… fix it up much better and they say, „You know, I can’t get any sympathy for this knee. Of course, I’m not so sure that I need sympathy by now.“

Two things you learned: the button can be worn out, and you can have some kind of a gimmick like a tie which will start a guy coughing. Hah!

But uh… on its recurrence, on a recurrence of a symptom, you always can expect a symptom to flash back on the preclear once in a while. Don’t worry about it (the preclear will) uh… why, get… get this knee and put it up in a… shop window on Main Street and have all kinds of people coming by and looking at it and feeling so sad because of the knee, you see? And then put it there as part of an underwear ad. And have them come by and feel so sorry for this knee. And then have all the members of the family come in very carefully. And then have the knee crowned with a crown and set on a throne so it can rule the whole world – I mean, any way you want to go this way, see.

But what’s he do? First he rationalizes very generally, then he narrows the rationalization – decides it’s in the room. Then he narrows the room to you and starts to find a little bit of fault maybe with your clothes. And all of a sudden he’ll look at your tie and he’ll suddenly remember and he’ll go „Boom!“

All of a sudden they’ll say, „The hell with this thing! Why did I ever bring this up?“ Well, that’s right. They brought it up Lord knows how long ago, as a mechanism.

„Oh, it’s that tie! You told me when I was asleep so-and-so, that I would cough every time you touched your tie! Aw, nuts!“

In other words, mock-ups directly apply to these things.

Now that means then that behavior can be transmitted to somebody who is put under a heavy current, and so on, a monotonous current inflow. And he could be put into this state. Doesn’t matter much whether you shot him in the face with a gun and said, „You’re dead“ or you shot him in the face with a gun with a blank cartridge in it and said, „You’re dead.“ Most of the time he’d die if you said, „You’re dead.“

What are you doing to it? You’re really doing this to it: You’re taking a part of the body which is disowned and for which the person is not responsible. A person has decided that that part of the body is harmful to him and he has actually cut communications with it and will not let it communicate in any direction.

You get the level of operation, then. It’s just an inflow – boom! It doesn’t matter whether it happens fast. If it happens very fast, you could implant it quick. If it happens slow, you implant it more slowly. It operates in any case.

This is very silly, because it stops its flows. It can’t flow. How the dickens can arthritis dissolve if the various glandular uh… secretions and so on in the blood stream that pick up calcium uh… if… if they don’t uh… go through the area? Or if the blood flow is slow through the area? So you get deposits, just as a river when it turns a corner leaves silt. Now uh… you’ve got a physiological condition. First, you… you just got concrete sitting in there. Well, just don’t try to solve it in terms of physical structure. True enough, a person can get sick. He can get sick from bacteria. Bacteria exist as far as he permits them to exist. If he’s down tone scale, he’ll permit bacteria to exist like mad. So he has bacteria and everybody has agreed ever since Pasteur that the… all these diseases were caused by it. Sure enough, they probably were. There were other factors involved, but there’s still bacteria.

A man can be knocked out with drugs, he can be knocked out with a blow. He can be hypnotized by physical pain, or by over-perception. Any of these things. So we add these… all these things up and you say, „For heaven’s sakes, these people are going around and they’re falling down and they’re getting unconscious and people are saying, „Well, he’s pretty bad off, and he’s awfully sick! Let’s see if we can dig up any of these experiences when somebody’s unconscious and find out if this is a hypnotic state.“ And you say, „Look at these people are going around and they do act as though they had restimulators in their environment. They… somebody comes in a perfectly warm room and says, „My, how cold it is,“ and that’s terribly aberrated behavior. And I keep observing it at all hands. And I wonder if it has something to do with this ‘pin mechanism’, the restimulator, which is the tie in the hypnotic incident.“

The guy can still get chewed up by bubonic plague or yellow fever or cholera. Let him drink some water which has carefully had placed in it, as they do in China – I think they have little Chinese coolies around on all the streams to drop in uh… Asiatic cholera into the stream at so many… so many cholera cysts per cubic inch of water. I think it’s an awful lot of trouble, but I’m sure they do that, because I’ve never seen a sample of water in China that didn’t look like a menagerie, You look at it through a microscope.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let’s knock ‘em out colder than a mackerel with physical cause and physical reasons, and we’ll just avoid all the ritual and mumbo-jumbo of hypnotism and we will say, „Whenever I touch my tie, you will cough.“ And they come out of it groggily. And you know, they… they… they just don’t quite uh… you touch your tie and they just look a little uncomfortable – nothing.

And by the way, the Asiatic cholera cyst is a fascinating thing. It won’t dissolve in chlorine. Oh, I mean you can drop it into a heavy chlorine solution and leave it for hours and hours and hours – a heavier chlorine solution than you’d dare drink – and just leave it there for hours and hours and hours. And take it out and it’s just as alive – fascinating. That thing has really had things fight it! And is it armor-plated and protected! The way you do it, you boil water for about 10 minutes. Don’t eat vegetables, though, because, my Lord! If you ate vegetables that had Asiatic cholera spore on them… why, you could spray them with potassium permanganate. That ruins the flavor of the vegetable but you feel you have to have green stuff. As a matter of fact, you can get so craving, the phys… GE can crave greenery to such a degree that he’ll even do that – he’ll s… dip things in things like potassium permanganate and hope that it’ll do something to the bacteria. It won’t – not the Asiatic cholera.

And then you say, „Well, uh… speaking of ties……“

And uh… the preclear can get sick from this cause, yes sir. The GE has agreed for a long time that he suddenly and inexplicably became sick. Well he went into apathy and didn’t observe bacteria any more. There’s no reason why he can’t look at bacteria. They can shoot a guy up with penicillin or something like that, or make him well from bacteria and fever.

And the fellow says, „What? Ahem!“

Of course, it is true that the bacteria can’t fasten upon him unless he’s weak in some fashion or another. But outside of that and the fact that you have to treat… treat a broken leg, and if a fellow has a tourni… is… if the fellow is bleeding to death, and pumping blood all over the place, this is no time to sit down and audit. Put a tourniquet on him. Uh… because uh… the thetan becomes inaccessable when his standard communication line, the body, goes out. Uh… he doesn’t if he’s up tone scale, but uh… this is not the preclear I’m talking about.

And you say, „Well, I was just talking about clothing – ties and that sort of thing.“

All right, this means then that as far as a permanent structural goal is concerned, the devil with it! Don’t… your… your fella… don’t let him get operated on to have his tonsils removed or something of the sort, or teeth pulled on the theory that this is going to alter his condition permanently. That won’t. You see, this is a chronic condition – it’s something that extends over a long period of time, and so on. If it extends over a period of time, his havingness on it is, of course, very great. Right? So it isn’t going to be solved by tinkering around with surgery or something of the sort.

„Ahem!“

If it’s an acute condition, just had an automobile accident, yes, you can solve the reason he has automobile accidents. If he’s just had one and his throat’s half cut – sew him up. Uh… emergency surgery or surgery which is directly addressed to an acute illness – he’s sick – is superior to auditing. The moment he’s had the surgery, however, run out the whole incident and the engram. He’ll get well. He’ll get well much faster if you do it that way. So here’s an acute state of disease, and here’s a long chronic state of disease. Well, it doesn’t do any good, really, broadly, to address surgery and drugs and monkey business and all sorts of cures and vitamins.

And you say, „Uh……“

The Japanese are wonderful. They’re one of the most unhealthy people uh… well. And, boy, do they take vitamins. They… Japanese Army, every time you took over a Japanese Army base you… you never found very much in the way of cameras or anything else. Some of the marine sergeants used to go around and kick the gold teeth out of the wounded and so on. But uh… uh… they… they used to consider that somewhat valuable because the Japanese love gold teeth. But uh… ooh! And uh… but the only stores you would find around… you might find a paucity of food, but you wouldn’t find any paucity of vitamins – great warehouses full of vitamins. Boy, did the Nipo believe in vitamins! I swear he fed his troops vitamins when he couldn’t feed ‘em anything else. They would… they would skip the rice ration if they had vitamins, and boy, were they unhealthy.

And he goes, „Ahem!“

You can actually feed a… an unbalanced vitamin ration where the vitamins and minerals are all unbalanced – and do what? And knock a preclear’s teeth out, knock his sight out, give him ulcers, do anything you want to to him by simply removing from the system the minerals and other things which are vital to a certain area. You give him an overbalanced ration – uh… let’s say it takes an awful lot of calcium to make teeth. And let’s give him a ration of vitamins, let’s pump him all up on proteins and minerals and vitamins – and omit the calcium. Huhh! The rest of the body is going to say, „Look, we’re rich and therefore we must have lots of calcium. Therefore if there’s lots of calcium around here, we naturally can build up everything and we can use the…“ Oh, boy! It doesn’t have any calcium, so it runs around – let’s see. It takes it out of the bones, it takes it out of the teeth, and so on. The first thing you know, the guy hasn’t got any teeth or something of the sort.

There’s another condition necessary then. Ho-ho! There’s a thing has to happen called a key-in. When the unconsciousness is way deep, in order to get it into an action strata, there has to be a lock sitting on the very deep one.

You could actually vitamize an unbalanced vitamin ration. I picked up quite a process by that, by the way. I figured out the mineral content of many parts of the body, simply by overdoses of proteins and minerals and vitamins, and omitted, carefully, each vitamin in turn and each mineral in turn. And would overdose the guy to such a degree that he was developing such a thing as scurvy. You can induce scurvy this way.

So you’ve got the engram but it doesn’t key in; it just sits there until somebody comes along and mentions it in such a way as to sort of trigger that into a higher level of consciousness. But it’ll still lie there as an unconscious experience.

You can take vitamin C, omit it from the ration, and then give him a TERRIFIC dosage of proteins and vitamins and minerals – with no vitamin C, no ascorbic acid, and in eight or ten hours of such dosage you can give him a case of scurvy, the like of which you’ve never observed. You can have his teeth just rattling in his gums. Gums all swelling up – oh, fascinating!

Do they wear out like hypnosis? Oh, yes, yep! You can wear this button out just like you can wear out hypnosis. Hmmm. Well, let’s just have him go over it again. And the guy remembers it all. At first he remembers just the beginning, and then the end. And then he remembers the rest of it. And then there’s more of it and then more of it. And what do you know! The button wears right on out.

And uh… now – now do we know that that’s vitamin C causing it? Well, it’s the imbalance and the inability of the genetic entity to handle anything above MEST. Do you think he’s a superior illusion because he’s so solid? He’s a superior illusion because he’s used a solidity that uh… he took out of a more superior illusion, the MEST universe.

And you finally says… you finally mention „ties,“ he doesn’t cough. You touch your tie; he doesn’t cough.

And uh… he’s got this all stacked together. And you think he’s in wonderful… wonderful shape? Well, he can’t handle an imbalance like that. What do you do? How do you know it was vitamin C? How do you know it really went to the teeth? Why, sure. He’s got a bad… bad teeth now, hasn’t he? He temporarily… you haven’t ruined him. any, particularly. Now let’s just omit everything and let’s pump him full of vitamin C. Now the vitamin C is a sort of vacuum. And it goes instantaneously into the teeth and the gums and he will develop a toothache the like of which no dentist… dentists really ought to know about this. They’re pikers, I mean, with their drills and all of that sort of thing. They try, I know they try, and they’re good boys, and I know that some of those dentists that… that got down to the point of putting… putting spiked pads on their knees to put those on the patient’s chest. And these little refinements uh… that they’ve used – they’re still pikers. I’m sorry to have… they’d have to find this out eventually. But uh… you feed that guy, after he’s been overdosed in everything else – don’t feed him proteins or vitamins or minerals, just feed him vitamin C. And feed it to him fast, and feed it to him in great big doses like a thousand units, you know, a thousand milligrams at a crack.

And what’s he do when he finally discovers what you’ve done to him in the hypnotic incident? He says, „Aww, nuts! That’s why I was coughing!“

And he will develop a toothache that he would rather be SHOT than suffer. He can just feel those teeth as cracking and creaking and trying to go back together again too fast. Too much havingness, you see.

And with that same incident, you can turn on streams of mucus out of somebody’s nose. You can… you can completely regulate their endocrine system in the most selective way. You could say, „Now, look. This stuff testosterone is bad, see. Your body can’t absorb it. When you get a shot, it gives you no lift up sexually. Sexually, you’re dead, fellow.“

And… and the scurvy will cure up. Of course, what you do after you’ve noticed this is just feed him some more proteins and vitamins and minerals, and they’ll take the vitamin C back out and they’ll tend to balance the ration.

Two ways to do it: one is kick him in the genitals – that’s correct. Just as an injury of that selective line, all of a sudden interrupts the testosterone balance of his system and keeps it interrupted long after you’d think that injury should have been set up. Or you can simply slug him out and tell him so. Two methods – both of them highly effective.

You can balance him up and get him back to, quote, normal, unquote, again. But uh… now let’s take that… let’s take this whole formula with vitamin C in it this time – everything in it. And now let’s carefully remove B1. Oh, let’s remove B1. Yeah, that’s what we’ll do. This time we’ll give him an overdose of B1 afterwards. See, we’ll feed him up for about 10, 12 hours on all… a pluperfect ration of protein hydrolysate and all the fancy minerals in their most digestible form, no food, you see. I mean the protein is a food. Protein, and minerals and… and uh… vitamins. And we’ll just omit vitamin uh… vitamin B1 – thiamine chloride. Just overdose, overdose, overdose and this guy will all of a sudden be saying, „You know. There’s things crawling on the walls, there’s spiders, there’s…“ Oh, God! Has he got a wonderful case of DTs! You can fix him up quickly.

As long as we have the mind going unconscious when it happens. Otherwise, nothing happens, except some kind of a little key-in or something.

Now… now cut him off all that other ration and right quick start shooting him full of B1. Well, he’ll snap back, but there are pyrotechnics to be observed there on a mental strata that you would be quite interested in. Because the way the pictures try to flash back into line – wonderful to behold. It tells you that B1 as a particle flow… as a particle is… somehow or other fits into the pictures of pictures, you understand? It says it has something to do with holding pictures in suspension. Or it ‘has something to do with goofballing up the thetan or the GE so that he thinks he has a big flow of something when he doesn’t have it. It’s upsetting. You could study it for a while, you’d probably understand what it was. The study has yet to be made. I just studied this other.

Well, if we run it through enough times it wears out, the endocrine system turns on again. Function is monitoring structure. What do you know, we got engrams.

All right, let’s take that full dosage again and let’s omit another vitamin and we’ll find out suddenly that the liver on this super overdosage with one thing missing, the liver just goes to pieces – ha-wham! Oh, does he get in terrible condition quick. Now take that one and overfeed him on it and the liver just goes into straight agony in reverse as it tries to right itself. And then of course, balance it out, and the guy gets all right again.

Now we can operate on this guy; we can shoot this guy full of hormones; we can talk to him about this; we can talk to him about that. We can hypnotize him to heal it, or we can feed him religion. And he doesn’t get well!

It’s fascinating that the GE is so fixated on having to have certain kinds of MEST. He has… he’s agreed so thoroughly with the MEST universe that he couldn’t substitute B1 for C. Oh, no! No, he knows he’s got to have that crystal form B1 or he knows he’s got to have that C. And he does this purely by association: „What’s there? What’s been there? Well, we… then we’ve got to have that. We can’t have any substitute on the line.“ He’s still differentiating but how’s he differentiating? He’s differentiating along about this level. Is it a chair or is it a table? And he is able to tell which is the chair in terms of crystals and virus structure in general.

You can go out and you can say, „Now look. If you just believe in the great god Throg-Magog, and so on, you can put this whole god over alongside of you and he’ll monitor you and he’ll tell you what to do after this.“ And it’ll just work out fine for a couple of days and then the guy will spin – zing! He’ll really spin because he’s made something else responsible, of course, as we know now.

He’s… he’s smart, see. He’s utterly dependent upon this stuff, but he couldn’t turn B1 to C. He couldn’t do that. And if you as a thetan are unable to do that after you’ve been in process for four or five months, you ought to go out and shoot yourself.

All right, the great god Throg-Magog, then, could handle him for a couple of days and then handle him no more. Then he just goes downhill and downhill.

As far as matter and its basic structure is concerned, it is terribly alterable. But the GE can’t alter it. He’s not a superior illusion at all.

So what? All of these duress or control therapies – structures, unconsciousnesses, hypnotism, medicine – in no case would alleviate a condition. They would hold it in suspension or hold it in abeyance in some fashion or another. But in the presence of a mental block on the subject, nothing could be done!

You can goofball up the GE and the body in the most fascinating ways. But it’s much easier just to convince him that he’s been goofballed. All you have to do is convince him he has been.

If mister has gotten his back broken because he’s got an engram about his back, it would be the same thing as though you told this fellow under hypnosis he had to go out and get his back broken. Same thing. And you told him forcefully enough and that he had to have an injured back, and it was necessary to his survival to have an injured back, and everybody feels so sorry for him to have it, and make it very desirable to have an injured back, he’d go out and break his back.

Uh… some time or other… some time or other get him into a very somnolent state and… and then drink some whitish powder and put some flour in it or something of the sort and don’t let him know anything about it… this, see – don’t let the preclear know. And he drinks this whitish powder, „Drink it down. That’s fine. You’ve just taken arsenic.“ If he’s in a very susceptible frame of mind he will lie down on the floor, writhe, and he will give you all the symptoms of dying by arsenic. It will be very puzzling to him why he doesn’t go all the way through with it, but by examining the structure of the thing at length, he will be able to take it and – „This is not arsenic.“

And what do you know? You heal it up and you could strap it up and heal it up and fix it up any way you wanted to and it wouldn’t get well, and it wouldn’t get well, and it wouldn’t get well until you pulled the doggoned incident.

Well, now that tells you then that your GE can be hit on two levels – we’re not too interested about the GE. But he can’t be hit on a structural level… he can’t be hit on a structural level if the functional level is shot. You can do anything you want to an alcoholic. You can take enzymes, benzenes, methylzenes, magazines, anything you want, and fool around with an alcoholic. You can feed him sugar uh… you can feed him spice uh… you can s… make him stand on his head, you can train him how to… how to… that he has to live for two seconds at a time and no longer – you can do all these wonderful things – and you’ll still have alcoholics.

Now you can ha… do that. And the tests… we’re on such things as a cut finger. You’d knock the guy out and cut his finger and then tell him how valuable that finger cut was, and tell him he should get his finger cut. Just put a little pain in it, don’t hurt it any. But give him enough pain so he’s got pain on the unconsciousness. And out he goes, and hurts his finger. And he’ll hurt his finger, and he’ll hurt his finger – and he’ll hurt his finger, and he’ll hurt his finger. And every time he hurts his finger he gets another engram. Hmmm. He gets more sympathy too. Hmmm.

The test of an alcoholic is can an alcoholic sit down and take a drink and just stop with that one drink and feel all right. Uh-uh. He can’t do it. The GE has a scarcity obsession on some type of crystalline structure. All you have to do is deny him this structure and deny him this structure and deny him this structure, and he’ll decide he can’t have it any more. And he will take a substitute for it. And then if you make THAT scarce, he will become psychotic on it. This is strictly your MEST universe at work.

In other words, it’s getting deeper and deeper and deeper, and worse and worse and worse, all the way down the line.

You could take a little kid – now get this – you could take a little kid and deny the little kid candy. And deny the little kid candy and deny him candy and not let him have candy and tell him how bad candy is for him – until at last you have created an utter apathy on the subject of carbohydrates.

So we’ve got the same mechanism at work and they can be worn out. But they require key-ins just like hypnotism does. And you can run all of these various experiments and you’ll find them very productive. And you’ll find out you can run incidents like locks, and you can run locks wholesale. You can scan ‘em, you can run all sorts of things all over the place, and you won’t have any trouble with them.

Having created this complete apathy upon this, you now make it possible for him to have the altered form of candy without digesting it – namely alcohol. And the second you do this, he of course knows that he cannot have, and therefore he can’t tolerate and therefore it is dangerous, candy. He KNOWS he can’t have candy – but he can have alcohol. And he’s so greedy for it that he’ll goofball. It starts in with a functional scarcity or a functional enforcement.

Now on the assist, for God’s sake, don’t forget the assist because it’s one of the best ways to handle something – an immediate injury. Boy, you can get that thing down, bang!

Now let’s… let’s just go the other way around. Let’s take the little kid and force him to have candy and we force him to have candy, and we force him to have candy. We make it possible for him to get alcohol. He’ll… he’ll eventually go into apathy on the subject of candy and you get practically the same manifestation. That’s because your… your vectors go both ways. It really doesn’t matter much whether you inhibit or enforce something. The end result is the same. Blank, and uh… apathy. It’s just an upset of self-determinism.

But there’s what’s known as a creative processing assist. Give him new thumbs, if he’s hurt his thumb. Process parts of the body: mock up parts of the body, get superfluity on parts of the body, lots of ‘em. Break the back of the MEST universe motto, „It shall be scarce!“ And break the back on it. And the way you do that is just that, by giving the guy an abundance of mock-up.

All right? The guy has a good chance of becoming an alcoholic. Sure, it evidently is physiological. What do you have to do to… to fix that up? You just have to fix him up so that you… he doesn’t feel quite so degraded. Uh… you return his self-respect a little bit and tell him he can handle matter. If he can handle matter a little bit and so on, he’ll come up the line awfully fast. It’s a terribly artificial condition.

You see, the mock-up is more real than actuality as some people here are finding out. „You know, this MEST universe isn’t very real. But these mock-ups I’m getting are beautifully real.“

But in particular, let’s cover the subject of candy. You’d better not try to cover it by giving him a piece of candy, the first time you ever give him a piece, if you ever treat him… if you were to force him to have a piece of candy, you would just drive him nuts. You would make him quite ill. That’s right. You… he… he becomes sick. He doesn’t want anything to do with carbohydrate in that form.

Now of course, you get somebody… you back somebody up, you have to know where you’re backing them to. And we find out, all of a sudden, you’re backing them to a high level of self-determinism and yet we find out to stop at a short point on self-determinism is almost… is quite undesirable.

All right, I’m not recommending that the cure of alcoholics be accomplished through the rehabilitation of the ability to eat candy, but that is a direction it can go.

So you have to get him up to a high level of self-determinism where he is a good, ethical being as well as a very strong one. And we find out he has to be a very strong being in order to be an ethical being. And uh… so that sort of has to solve itself in that direction.

It doesn’t lie basically, as basic causation, enzymes or snenzymes or benzymes, in other words it has… it’s not basic causation. And you could stuff him full of all the enzymes and benzymes and magazines you wanted to stuff him full of, and he would not recover from his alcoholism. They go to the Keely Institute and then they come out, and then they go back to the Keely Institute, and then they come out and they go back, just for variety. There’s some crackpot out in… out in Kansas, I don’t know, he sells a patent medicine or something of the sort. Uh… I think it’s Menninger’s Cough Syrup or something like that – oh, Menninger’s Psycho Syrup, that’s right! And it’s made of some… some jerkwater. There’s…

And we’ve moved right straight out of structure entirely. The second the guy can handle all force, he can handle structure. He can have it or not have it at will. He can step out of his head and mock up some structure, and he can do it well enough so that somebody will have to accept it. You can do a much better job than this universe, by the way.

Have you ever been across the continent? Well, there’s one… one place there… there’s – oh, you wouldn’t remember this, but there’s a place there where the train whistles twice, and – uh… yeah. And… that… that… that’s different from all the other places – it whistles five times at all the other watering stations. And as it goes past this place there, you might look around and there’s a little adobe shack or something over there. Anyway, they get… they get alcoholics there. And they… they take ‘em in and then they take their money and they let ‘em out after a while. And then they take them back in again, if they find out the family’s got some more money, and they let them out after a while. And then they take them in again, just for variety’s sake, and then they let them out after a while. And when they haven’t got any more money, this character Menninger then ships ‘em across the river where they go to the State Institution permanently.

Now, you could continue to live in confluence with your friends. You could continue to live in the MEST universe. You could continue to do all sorts of things. But with this knowledge and this information you could bail yourself out. That’s important. With the data which has been accumulated on this, you can bail yourself out. There isn’t much that you can get into that you can’t get yourself out of, even if you’re all by yourself. These processes will work actually, on yourself, all by yourself.

You know, that’s not a libelous statement? You know that’s fact?

So we’ve gone on up the line to a collection of data, and this data is very brief, but really – it’s there. It’s just all roads lead to Rome on the thing. Self-determinism and that’s Q-l.

Student: Fact?

And… but – look at the basic datum: what was Man trying to do? He had the answer to that: he’s trying to survive. That sounds kind of silly, „He’s just trying to survive,“ but that’s right. That’s all he’s trying to do. There’s no reason why he’s trying to survive. It’s just a game, it’s something to do and he got in too deep. And then he got to be a broken piece and then nobody could help him out. Then he couldn’t help himself out, so somebody had to bail him out. I think he could’ve helped himself out, myself.

That’s fact. Uh… they… uh… he used to be director of the state institution. He can put any of these patients that have run out of dough over there. He killed a fellow recently… he didn’t kill a fellow. A fellow by the name of Hacker. This guy Hacker used to jump around all over Los Angeles and say, „Dianetics – down with Dianetics! Down with Dianetics! We know all there is to know! And we’re sane. We’re sane! I’m sane! I’m sane!“ You know. Typical uh… quiet, calm, reserved, orderly fellow. And uh… and there was a motion picture actor by the name of Walker, you know? He played Private Hargroves and so forth?

Now, uh… the data accumulated showed us a heck of a lot of things and all of these things were of the highest importance maybe, at one time or another, uh… as processes. But fortunately, you don’t have to know all these trick processes. But you do have to know the phenomena, because you’ll encounter the phenomena and their… you have to know that direct address of phenomena is an agreement with the MEST universe that it exists. So you have to back up from that phenomenon.

Well, Menninger had him first. Menninger let him in and let him out and let him in and let him out, and let him in and let him out. And finally after about six months of this sort of thing, they sent him back to Hollywood and then Hacker, of course kept shootin’ him all the stuff and shootin’ him the stuff and shootin’ him the stuff – kept him under heavy drugs. Of course, a man kept under heavy sedation, everything that’s happened to him gets worse and worse and worse. And then one day he shoots him too full of drugs and kills him, murders him. And uh… and under any code of laws – if there was any law in California – it would be murder.

So under processing we get, of course, the Auditor’s Code, how is it done? It’s done from a high level – that could also be called the Code of How to Be Civilized – it’s done from a very high level of ethic. Not from a moral… when you start to get victimized by the Auditor’s Code it has become a moral code to you, because it’s no longer reasonable, because it’s damaging one dynamic. But don’t bust it as a straight break, because that is even more damaging. There is an ethical way of handling all of this. And the best way is to be so strong that you wouldn’t have any inclination to. And you start to help somebody out, they just get helped out, poor fellow.

And uh… everybody said, „Poor… poor Walker. Well, Hacker did the best for him. Hacker did the best he could.“ That’s right. Hacker did the best he could – kill people.

And the fellow says, „Well, yap, yap, yap.“

Now they’re making a basic, horrible basic error. They keep trying to treat structure without remedying function. Yeah. You’ll run into the damnedest books on the subject of this – oh, just wonderful – about how… how… how this kind of drug and that kind of something or other all effect this wonderful digitalic uh… uh… acafluence uh… upon people and so on. But don’t put it to use, or don’t test it out. It’s been run just like any other squirrel investigation. It’s been tried on two cases, failed on both of them; the notes were written up favorably and it was released.

And you say, „Huh?“

Now that’s… that’s historical fact.

„Well, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.“

Now what do… what do you do then on this? What do you have to do to clear it up? You have to clear up agreement with the MEST universe in terms of scarities and enforcements which comes down at last to a craving, a shortage, terrible shortage. And it solves on this. You have to have it, you can’t have it. If you just ran that on any injury or obsession or compulsion: „Now you have to have it. You have to avoid having it. All right, you have to have it. You have to avoid having it. You have to have it. You have to avoid having it.“ And you just go on like that – it’s a process all by itself.

You say, „Poor guy, you really mean it.“ It doesn’t bother you.

Just sits there. If that’s all we knew, we could probably stand around and talk and have our… have our post in glory for a long time. If we just knew that one… one dichotomy. And an awful lot of this stuff like that. If you just had that one, you could work. If you just had… if you knew about what responsibility was and you just work responsibility and no responsibility as a dichotomy, why you could get to solve cases.

He runs all around the neighborhood, he says, „You know that auditor down there, he’s just terrible. He does horrible things,“ and so forth. „Beautiful women go in there day and night. You know, he really, all horrible things happen in that place – terrible. Very immoral and all that sort of thing.“

If you get terribly desperate with a preclear some time or another, and they’ve got some kind of a chronic somatic, just sit down and grind the damn thing out. If you can’t do anything else, just say, „Have to have it. Have to avoid having it. Have to have it. Have to avoid having it.“

If you’re tough enough and you radiate far enough, do you know that the neighbors wouldn’t uh… wouldn’t even be disturbed. Doubtful, though, in this society. One has to assume there’s something there, and so on.

Somebody was asking me the other day, „How do you solve being degraded?“ Well, you have lots of ways to solve being degraded. Mainly force – rehabilitation of force.

All right. Now in page 38 here we have the Theta Entity and the Theta Entity is a misnomer. There is no such thing as the Theta Entity. It’s a typist error, uh… and it might not be in the book. It should have been caught. What’s meant there is the Thetan. We know about that. Uh… the entities? They’re ridges on which facsimiles are planted and I was drawing you some pictures in a recent lecture about all these squares and – compartments across the top. Each one of those things can be a thinking entity. It thinks it’s alive. It can think as a being as long as energy is fed to it.

So, how… how… how… how could you solve it? If we didn’t have any other process. Well look: If you ever get down a blind alley and you say, „Now let’s see. Now we’ve got a terrible case of ruddy-rodism. And no research has ever been done in Scientology on ruddy-rodism. And it’s a horrible, malignant phobia which causes traffic cops to arrest speeders“ or something of the sort. „It’s terrible, and I have this preclear and God knows, nobody knows anything about this. And I’m sure Hubbard never… never processed anything like this. And this is worse than anything I ever saw. The time the guy comes into the office, why he… he just sits there and I just mention ruddy-rodism and so forth, and he just sits there and he vomits and he vomits and he vomits. Now what am I supposed to do?

Always remember that one: as long as energy is fed to it, it can think and act as a being. Therefore, if you, quote, pay attention to it, it will think and act. You start talking to an entity and, of course, it talks back. With what energy? Yours.

And I say, „Mock up something,“ and he vomits. And I tell him to mock up vomiting and he vomits.“

Now the auditor can actually start talking to an entity and energize it, just as people in a person’s environment energize his entities very often. They come in and energize an entity and they get him dispersing and doing this and that. They actually are blowing energy at an entity. And it’s apparently thinking, acting – that’s the way they control him. That’s a beautiful control mechanism.

Well, if you ever get in that kind of a pinch, or if your wits just congeal on you when confronted with some horrendous problem, there is a common denominator of all these things, since time is the single arbitrary of aberration. This was discovered empirically, this datum. And then it was found out how it fitted. And now, boy does it fit. And that is Having to have it, and Avoiding having it. Trying to escape from having it – anyway you want to phrase this. The… the point is, it’s having… trying to escape from having it; now trying to force yourself to have it; now trying to keep yourself from having it. Just go up and down the line of Desire, Enforce and Inhibit.

The entities will have the damnedest facsimiles on them, and they’ll apparently be stuck on the time track someplace. Each one different from every other one. That’s because of the various ridges on which facsimiles are planted. And that’s all an entity is.

All right, wanting to have it, trying not to want to have it; wanting to have it, somebody else wanting you to have it. Any time you want to run brackets, you could get fancy on this, you see. You could run a complete bracket, that is, to… the preclear needing it, somebody else wanting the preclear to need it, the preclear wanting somebody else to need it, other people needing it, and other people wanting other people to need it, and everybody restraining everybody from doing all those things, and then everybody re… forcing everybody from doing… to do all those things.

You can blow an entity to pieces any time you want. Every once in a while you get the strangest spooky notion that there’s other thetans. And every once in a while in a preclear you’ll get some very, very decadent thetan out of him.

You could just play this organ in any one of those stops. That’s a bracket: to the preclear, to another, to others. Preclear doing it to somebody else, somebody else doing it to the preclear, others doing it to others. Another way of running a bracket: Overt act, Motivators, DEDEX – you get ‘em all. They’ll all come out in that fashion.

You take a look and he’ll say, „You know, that’s a funny thing. There’s a glow that’s of a very low order on a ridge and I can’t seem to handle that ridge. And I don’t seem to be able to do anything with that ridge.“

But if… if that all deserted you and… and you found yourself creative processing, postulate processing uh… I… I don’t know where I’m going next. I… I seem to be in the Texas of a pilot house, and so on. And that’s all very well, but I thought we were on the Mississippi, and here we are in the North Arctic Ocean. And it turns out not to be the Texas uh… on a steamer at all but uh… hy golly! The thing looks like an electronics lab or… or something. And I’m getting awfully squirrelly too.“

You say, „Is there anything else on it?“

Just look at the preclear desperately and you say, „Now you notice the obsession you’ve got there, you know. Now you got that now? Now get having to have it. Now, not having to have it. Now, having to have it. Now, trying to avoid having it. Now having to have it.“

„Yeah.“

If you… that… that’s the only thing you could think of, it’d work. It’ll work. You can grind it right straight on out, because you’re working with time and you’re knocking the thing back down the time track, that’s all.

„Well, now detach that thing. Well, you got that thing detached there? Well now detach the whole ridge and throw it away.“

Now if you get… if your… if you… your wits are just a little more fluid, why having to have it, having to avoid having it, or avoiding having it. Now trying to make somebody else have it, now trying to keep somebody else from having it, now others trying to keep others from having it. Okay, and back we come again to uh… trying to keep from having it, trying to have it.

They actually will be occasionally, but they’re not active.

It’s just a positive-negative, see. Any way you want to phrase it, as long as you run the positive and negative on the thing.

Preclears will also have the idea that they’re hanging around the backs of their necks. They’ve got old currents and old ridges will go into vibration. And they start thinking about the backs of their necks and, of course, any ridge that’s on the backs of their necks will go into vibration. And they get the idea that entities or… or en-thetans – ah, that’s a wonderful word – en-thetans are creeping up on them and crawling up on them, and that they’re being mobbed by this and that and so on. They can be very convinced about this, by the way; and that they’re… they’re about to be attacked, or the whole town is about to be blown up or any damn thing you could think of. And uh… they’ll get very worried about this.

So this… this kid’s got a club foot, terrible shape club foot. Okay. „Get having to have the club foot… trying to avoid having the club foot… having to have it…“ I don’t care how many hours you run it. He’ll start to develop pain very shortly in his foot.

The truth of the matter is, no matter how dark it is there’s nothing can touch you. Unless you sit down and carefully determine that something’s going to. And if you carefully make up your mind that something is going to happen to you, you can undoubtedly fix it up so it will.

If you want to get real fancy, turn it white and then run this. Or turn it white and black and run this. Or any w… thing… th… anything you want to do to it, as long as you’ve got that basic fundamental – having to have it, not having it. And you could run that on a stomach ache. Oh, some preclear, you’ve done mock-ups and you know there’s everything this preclear can create and destroy and this preclear is terribly competent – well, of course preclear probably isn’t mocking up anything. Preclear probably sitting there, being very obliging, saying, „Yes, yes.“ All right.

Now, that’s the sum and substance then of entities. As far as running engrams, I’ve just given you a dissertation on it. That’s really all you have to know about running an engram. Spot the incident where it happened, and make the guy go through it so many times he is so sick of it.

And you run him on the E-Meter and you say, „Well, all right. Could you create a cat?“ E-Meter doesn’t register. „Could you destroy a cat?“ E-Meter doesn’t register. You say, „Well, he’s all right on the Fifth Dynamic, evidently.“

It’s very strange to people sometimes. They’ll be quite amused at the first time they ever discover a this-life engram. They went all the way through the operation; they were completely alert all the way through it. Or… or there are parts of the operation that they’re not alert in.

And, „Destroy your parents?“ – E-Meter doesn’t register. You say, „Yes. Create your parents?“ – E-Meter doesn’t register.

Don’t be too surprised if there’s chunks of engrams that ought to be there that aren’t there. Don’t be too surprised at this. You’re dealing with energy and concept of energy, and the fellow had a concept that it was there once upon a time, but something might have caved that ridge in. There might be a heck of a scramble of energy in the vicinity of this thing. A piece of it might be missing.

It’s stuck. I mean, they’re stuck in something. They’re… they’re so monomanic, in one direction and one compartment and one department, they aren’t even in communication. And yet they’re apparently sitting there saying „Yes“ and „No“ – all sorts of thing. Boy, are they really out.

Now sometimes during an operation a whole ridge will blow. Don’t think that a preclear suddenly… by the way, never make this mistake, that this is a sudden and strange manifestation that occurs – these ridges and flows and things like that; they’re… they’re sudden manifestations that occur the moment the person became a preclear and never existed before that. Don’t make that mistake. They put a… put a patient on an operating table and they come down with that knife or that machine or something of the sort, and there’s a bad shock. And this shock results in an electronic flash. And that’s some ridge blowing up. They don’t have anything connected to him to demonstrate what’s happening. But he comes out of that and he’s a vastly changed being. They’ve blown his bank up. And scrambled his incidents and ruined him. And he’s got to be rehabilitated in the handling of energy.

You’ll run into this case every once in a while. If a case is in terrible shape and looks awfully perplexing to you, you just haven’t… and you can’t find out what’s wrong with the case, just put it down to this: The case just isn’t registering. The case may look like a Three, or may look like a Two. They’re not. They’re a Seven. They’re just not registering. You can’t get them to do… you… they… they say, „Yes – they’re doing these various things,“ and they’re not doing them. And here they go, and they’re being very obedient. You’re working a Seven. Have him locate the room.

Very often an operation produces results solely because it merely shifts a person on a time track. Probably that’s the only reason it does, I don’t know. But uh… I wouldn’t say so far as that. You can still patch up a broken leg, although you’re a hell of a… you’re a hell of a thetan that can’t fix up a broken leg, let me tell you. Well, throw that one away and get another one. That’s right, it’s a better looking leg anyway. I mean that’s… that’s about the way it goes.

It’s liable to be with a great shock that the fellow will look at you and say, „I… God… gee I… but the iron bars do look kind of unfamiliar.“ They’ve never looked at this room. They’re trying to avoid having it. They’re trying to avoid having a body. They’re having to have a body, having not to have… not have a body and all sorts of this.

All right, uh… the running of engrams, then, can become complicated by manifestations of energy and the fact that one tries to have the engram so he can run it. And of course there are vectors in it, so the second he tries to have it the thing will very often go away from him and he doesn’t have it any more. Or he tries not to have it and, of course, it moves at that moment right in on him.

So, if you ever get down… now every once in a while one of you come up and ask me, you say, „Well uh… how do you solve this?“ or, „How do you solve that?“ or, „What’s the specific solution?“ Now, if you couldn’t think of just running mock-ups, if you couldn’t think of what mock-up would fit into this thing, if… if… if that was too much of a strain on it, or appears too terrible to handle or something of the sort, remember that this other one always will handle it. Having to have it… hav… you don’t have to worry about flows. Just having to have it, not having to have it. maybe it’ll take you 24 hours or 60 hours to grind the thing out finally on brackets and various things on havingness, but it’ll grind out. It will grind out eventually.

There’s one way of doing this, is sort of emanate in the direction of the ridges. You emanate in the direction of the ridges, they’ll start lighting up. Just blow in their direction. Don’t emanate anything except a… a flow – not a agreement or disagreement or anything else – just… just emanate in that direction, and look. And, what do you know? Engrams will come into view.

And somebody is asking me up here, „How do you solve degradation?“ Well, if you can’t solve degradation any other way – degradation is being big and getting small – uh… if uh… you’re uh… and that is by big… getting big and being small, and not at your own uh… request.

You just postulate yourself a little higher up tone scale, see, than you have to be. You don’t agree or disagree or have to have or not have to have, and so forth. Just emanate a little bit in that direction. Just feel yourself flow in that direction a bit and engrams that are otherwise……

Another way, people get degraded on the subject of sex because it’s – like the alcoholics – there’s suddenly a great scarcity of sex – terrific scarcity. So sex gets more and more precious and more more precious and they feel more and more degraded by having to have it. And at last they’re practically out through the bottom – crash! Scarcity. It’s scarce and they can’t have it, but they have to have it. And if they have to have something, they can’t have, it demonstrates to them that their ability to create is terrible and this demonstrates to them that they must agree with the MEST universe if they have to have it.

The guy says, „I can’t run that incident,“ and you know he’s sitting in Mama’s death and so forth. You can just get him to emanate kind of out in front of him or around back of him or wherever this engram’s parked. It’s parked geographically. It… because… he… it’s just one that he didn’t say, „Go into yesterday“ to.

That’s why some guys spin in. You de… you just show them… show them a ring or a marriage licence, some guy or some girl or something like that and they just go, „Bzzzzzzzzrrrllmmmm!“

See, you have to actively say to an engram, „Go into the last five minutes,“ or it won’t go. And then you have to hide from yourself the mechanism of doing that in order not to know you do it. Automaticity enters in on it and you’ll forget you’re doing it.

Did you see WINGS – uh… back… the old… the old production, World War 1 planes and everything else? They had some of the beautiful shot-downs there. I mean, the… the Fokker or the Spad or something or other would be shot down and they’d go down in beautiful falling leaves and trailing smoke and terrific sound effects and so forth. And finally, way below on the… on the grass, crash.

Actually, it’s a completely conscious process. Every instant of time is a completely conscious process. So that if you… if you… if you’re not just saying, „Time. Time. Time. All right. Don’t have. Don’t have. Don’t have. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park“ of time, you haven’t got any time track.

Well, there are various buttons in people’s lives that are like a… a whole hatful of machine-gun bullets into the gas tank of a Spad, which wouldn’t fly anyway. The only reason they flew – nobody ev… really knew this – but you know that World War I’s planes didn’t fly. They just found fellows who were strong enough to lift ‘em up into the air and carry them.

A guy sometimes gets into the state of not doing anything with it, see? And he wonders, „Where’s my sonic?“ It’s all stacked, right in front of his face. It’s all right. He can stretch it out and he’s got it all again. Only he’s got to stretch it out. He’s got to say, „Well, that’s in last year. Now we’ll string it from there.“ And he’d have a track.

Ever since… ever since… since that race sort of died out, why ever since they’ve been… they’ve been trying to get an airplane to fly.

But you have to do that, you see? And it’s not spatial. YOU DON’T SHIFT SPACE. You have to… you… it’s the same space as the thing occurred – in. It’s just disappearing in that space. And when he’s mastered that trick, he’s mastered time. It… it’s simply time… time past is „not have“. It’s just „not have,“ that’s all.

Well, when you ask about degradation or when you ask about, „What is this thing about money? Yeah, money, let’s see. Money-money.“ Well, of course, there’s a lot to know about money.

And time that isn’t is just „will have“. And time that is, is „have it“. It’s so simple. You can go on like this and explain like this. And it’s something like trying to explain ad nauseam that golf balls are white because they’re white. That’s all, they’re just white.

Money… Howard Scott… there’ve been some guys beating their brain cells together in this cen… century. Howard Scott uh… had some very interesting theories on the subject of money. It’s the circulatory system of this society.

Now you run secondaries, grief charges, and you’re into the subject of loss. And what do you know, right back into time again. Loss is what? No time. You run a secondary the same way you run an engram. You start them in at the beginning. They can be in terror, they can be in fear, be in any of those things. If you just tell the preclear, start him just like this.

Let’s uh… put it into our frame here and call it, „Money is the attention units of a society“. And they circulate one to another, and back and forth again. And that’s proven out by the fact they operate like attention units. Let’s say a dollar’s an attention unit. And actually where you find the greatest interest centered, you’ll find the greatest number of attention units.

You say, „All right, when was the first moment you received news of your father’s death?“

Now that person who can force the greatest interest, gets even more attention units because attention units are force units – dollars are force units. They’re enforced by bayonets, and they’re enforced by scarcity and they’re enforced by what they laughingly call the law of… of „Demand the supply“.

And the preclear says, „Well, I remember clearly that so-and-so,“ and he’s doing a big pretense. The engram is sitting right in front of his face and he’s saying it isn’t there. See? „Well, I recall this, I know this. Yeah. And, uh… somebody told me……“ That’s a lock on it – „that.“

Uh… and uh… so you want to… you want to have a lot of dollars coming your way? Be interesting. That… that’s if you want to be… just be interesting. They’ll flow your way. Wear a… wear an eight-foot hat down the street. One way or another, dollars will come your way if you do that.

And you say, „No, no, no, no, no, no. When is the first moment you can pick up there that you heard your father died?“

Of course, there is interest with repugnance, and then that means attention, although it flicks in your direction, flick off. Dollars won’t flow in on that one. They just flick in, flick off.

„Oh, um, I guess it was a telephone call.“

Well, you can’t figure out how to solve money? Having to have money, not having to have money. Just run it.

„All right. Answer the phone.“

Now this fellow keeps telling you… keeps telling you, „But how do I solve this body? I haven’t got a body – I mean, I’ve got a body and I… I’m uh… not in it, but I am in it. And I… I know this and I… I’d like to be free and I don’t feel free and so on.“ And you’ve just tried everything. You’ve burned up his body, and you’ve thrown it out the window, you’ve made it appear and disappear and he still can’t get out of his body. And mock-ups don’t seem to work too well and they’re upsetting to him that… there could be a bug there, you see. There’s the way he’s handling them. And he isn’t handling them the way he says he is. And uh… you’re not feeding ‘em to him very fast the way it is. And there’s an upset there some place – bad upset.

„Well, I can’t remember that far…“

It would be an application upset – a technique? No. You just have failed to sight whether or not he was really doing what he was doing. Or failed to start in simply enough so that he’s just kind of swamped and he’s going along and not telling you what he really is doing. You’ll find those preclears, by the way, in abundance.

„Now just a minute. Pick up that telephone. Where does the telephone normally sit? Take a look at it. All right, you got the telephone? Well, now answer it. Now what is said to you over the phone?“

Well, all right. If you’ve got a problem of that nature, it will always solve on this one – Having to have a body, needing to have a body, having to be able to control a body, having to be able to own a body, having to be able to protect a body, having to protect people. And NOT doing so, all the way down the line.

And the guy runs it off, and all of a sudden, „What the hell,“ he says. „I’m hearing this again.“ He runs it on through and at first he’s very vague and he gets upset and it’s very thin. And then he gets closer in and closer in to the thing. And then cries maybe or gets terrified or gets upset and… and it all goes by the boards. Well, that’s solved by having and not having. You could say, „Now get having and not having on the subject of Papa, having to have a father, not having to have a father.“ You do the same trick by running it on a flow so these processes are not disrelated.

Just the sub-zero tone scale, positive-negative. Dichotomies will cover that more thoroughly. So you could run these dichotomies back and forth. But what’s it boil down to? Having to have a body, and trying to avoid having a body.

Now, running locks, you can just scan those wholesale. A lock requires a heavy incident to sit on. There’s got to be pain and unconsciousness in the incident before locks started gathering on it.

And the guy running this dichotomy, having to have a body and trying to avoid having a body and so on – he’ll get unsquirrelled eventually on the subject of bodies. It’s a funny thing that that technique sits there kind of isolated. You won’t appreciate this unless you’ve really, really taken a look at it. But having this technique sitting there uh… isolated – having to have it, possession, or control.

So when Joe Jinx comes in the room and he says, „Eeeeeowwww! A black cat!“ you say, „What’s the matter with you?“

Control is slightly different as a technique. Being able to control a body, not being able to control a body. Wanting to control a body, not wanting to control a body, brings in Have and Control at the same time. To own is to operate. You’re going up scale a bit, you see, when you talk about control.

„Oh, I hate black cats! Do you know every time I see a black cat, I get a black eye? I’m going to leave. I get terrible sinusitis too. Ohhh! You’ve got a potted geranium! Oh, I can’t stand geraniums! I’m……“ and so on and so on. As he goes down the steps he sees that somebody’s left a roller skate on the steps. He can’t abide anything like that. Why aren’t people…… „Oh, a newel post on a ban……“

But it’s a very funny thing, that Control is better than Have, really. But uh… you’ll find Have is so intimately Time, that here… here are just thousands of things that you could apparently run quite logically – being guilty and not being guilty, being guilty and not being guilty. You’d think that would produce a result. Obviously, it should produce a result of some sort. Uh… being worried – you being worried, you worrying others, others worrying you. Let’s run that back and forth a bit.

What is this guy trying to do? He hasn’t found his restimulator. He’s looking all over the environment, see, trying to find the guy with the hand on the tie. He knows there’s a signal and he’s supposed to do something, and he fu… lost the signal. And he just starts jumping at the whole environment. And you get what is known as associative restimulators. Because it’s a hand on a tie he’s looking for, any tie hanging up anyplace drives him into fits. And because ties hang on shirts, any shirt hanging up anyplace turns him into fits. And because shirts go on bodies, then any body hanging up any place turns him into fits. And because bodies hang any place, then any place turns him into fits. You get how this is working?

You think that produce terrific results? No, that won’t. It just won’t do it. It will produce some results, yes. More spectacular than a lot of other results. But having to have and not having to have hits it right on the button. And trying to control and not trying to control hits it on a little higher button.

All right, you can actually sit a guy down on an E-Meter and look for the restimulator. „What’s the gimmick? What’s making you jump?“ You could just search for it relentlessly. It’s rather a long process but you just search for it and you’ll find that the reason this guy’s nervous and the reason that guy’s eyes are bad – for instance, why is the guy’s eyes bad? You could look in the real universe, laughingly called, and find out exactly what he’s hoping he won’t see.

Those are two buttons. They’re standing out there very isolated and no other flows work like those.

So the first drop you will get is, „Are you afraid you’ll see something“ – crash! Now what is it he doesn’t want to see? He doesn’t want to see one of these restimulators. Because if he sees this restimulator, then he has to do a Saint Vitus Dance, or something, see, he knows that.

So, when you get all these techniques all boiled down there, there’s anything that’s worrying the guy and you have to run actual facsimiles – having to have, not having to have, if you’re so rattled you can’t think of anything else, well, go right across the boards on it.

All right, so we’re right back on to the same basic formula that we were on before – the environment is upsetting. Well, he has certainly agreed that it would be upsetting so you’d better gradiently break his agreement with the whole darned environment. Because if you don’t, there isn’t any halfway point.

And having to control, or trying to control and not being able to control is a little higher echelon than that. Okay? Let’s take a break.

Oh, get that envir… that… get that environment beautifully unreal. Get him absentmindedly walking through walls, tipping his hat to his hostess at night and walking through the front door and out, forgetting to open it. Going out and sitting down comfortably just outside of the curb, and turning on the switch and driving home – not remembering that he didn’t bring the car that night.

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Life could be beautiful. Of course, I don’t guarantee what’s going to happen to other people. You see, in view of the fact that this is all science fiction, it’s so incredible that uh… nobody will believe it anyway. And a fellow says, „Oh! This big tough guy at the party. He’s always the life of the party, you know. He’s big and he smokes cigars, you know, and he drinks heavily and he was a boxer in his youth. He’s strong, knocks the girls crazy. He, oh, they’re for him. And he tears telephone books in half, you know. Throws them negligently over his shoulder. Tears packs of cards in half – real tough, see? Real strong.“

It won’t hurt this fellow’s reality any after he’s torn telephone books in half to have them lie on the floor and then tear ‘em in quarters – without anybody touching them.

So, it’s a good thing we’re… we’re operating completely behind the mask of any reality.

You’re gonna bust somebody’s reality to glory with this sort of thing. You can already bust their… if you just took one of these processes here, you could still bust their reality.

„Everybody knows that after a certain age, such and so couldn’t possibly happen and the body couldn’t heal about this and that.“ My God! We’ve turned off cancer and diabetes and leukemia and… and so on. The… actually auditors have hauled them off of death beds now for two and a half years and braced them up and put a couple of spikes through their hair to hold them up on the wall until a better process came along. But they are still alive!

Actually Dianetics and Scientology have probably saved several thousand lives – I don’t know. I would say so because I kept… I started keeping a case history on… a long time ago, and it got too numerous and I couldn’t keep it. Guys would just keep writing in. I wish I had it now, the… the… just what letters I had on the subject, and so forth, were once in existence. And they’re not now.

But, uh… gee, they just kept coming in and coming in and coming in and coming in. It’s a very funny thing. There are an awful lot of book auditors out in the field who did a tremendous amount of good, really used it down the line.

Some of… sometimes these auditors study a technique, they’ll find it too fast, they can’t charge a preclear enough for it. They’d rather have a slower technique than these new techniques. Boy, that’s really… they’re really in agreement with the MEST universe when they figure that there’s got to be scarcity. They’re creating a scarcity themselves.

You see, if they suddenly took up… took ten people and took ten days and cured all those ten people – oh, no! The… the horrible reality shatter that would occur in their neighborhood would be such that there would be Aunt Mamie and Uncle Joe up there, the relatives, saying, „You know, I have a friend. And I wanted to know if you couldn’t do something for this friend of mine, because uh… uh… of course, that friend wouldn’t be me.“

Now, that’s all very simple, this business of running concepts and feelings. You can get any kind of a concept and just get the guy to hold it for a little while – and it wears out.

And uh… then there’s running ridges, running circuits out, there’s blowing up circuits. Well, your thetan can run around the body and pull these things off, you know, and hook ‘em up to light taps or digest the energy or squash ‘em, or light fire to one corner of the ridge and blow up the rest of the ridge. It’s very fascinating. You can handle a ridge any way you want to. You just simply get out and take a look at it and do something with it. Ground it, or turn it purple or change it around or fit it across the back instead of across the back of the head. And then finally you’ve changed it often enough, you said, „To hell with it. We won’t bother with this ridge any more.“

All right, let’s put another ridge on, and then mock up one and put it on, then fasten that one in good and strong. You say, „Wait a minute. I’m fooling with my own body, and the ridge which I just mocked up is a perfectly good, solid ridge.“ We’d better come off of this. We’d better not do this any more because that’s getting just too real.“ And then one day you say, „I wonder, if I put a ridge between those two E-Meter cans, if it’d short out the E-Meter?“ And you sigh deeply because there are the E-Meter cans lying several feet apart, and you’ve got a line between them and the needle registers.

You say, „I thought I was handling just… just imaginary things, and here I was handling real juice!“

And running a live flow, that’s running present time flow. You just manufacture energy and blow things up with it, that’s all. You just say, „Let’s see now. There’s a lot of ridges on me, or there’s a lot of ridges on this preclear, or there’s a lot of flows going on, or a lot of dispersals going on. Let’s see – what do we do about this? Hmrrrnmm, well, let’s just throw a beam at it. Let’s throw a beam at ‘em and burn ‘em up.“ And boy, you don’t want to get too fancy with that the first time your power starts coming on. You’ll blow the GE up – really. He’ll just go… start going „Ka-paw! Pow! Pow! Pow!“ And the preclear’s sitting there.

If you wanted to be real ornery, just take a bead on his ridge – on a front ridge. It’s bad to blow ridges, to hell with blowing ridges. Just put them in yesterday or something. Why worry about blowing ‘em.

Uh… but… uh… you put a beam on this ridge he’s got across his face, you could really raise hell with him. Just kind of tune it and say, „Kok! Wave length is so-and-so.“ You don’t have to say wave length any more. You say s… „Now match the wave length now. Okay, there’s the ridge. Now, an energy flow will flow – ker-whap!“

And the guy’ll go „Booo!“

And you’ll say, „My God! What happened? What happened? Did a lightbulb blow up? I’m kind of blind. There was a flash.“ And it really will. We’re speaking in a term of reality, now, that you test with great ease. Those are the easier things.

Now as far as freeing a thetan by concept and feeling is concerned, and freeing the thetan in various other ways, present and future, by dichotomies and tone scale – all of that, we’ve been covering all this.

„Get the concept that you need a body. Now let’s get the concept that you don’t need a body. Let’s get the concept that you do need a body“ – you’re not running a flow, really, and so…

And the guy says „But I DO need one.“

„Well, get the concept that you do. All right, now get the concept you don’t.“

„But I do need one.“

„All right, get the concept that you do,“ and you say, „For Christ’s sakes! Get the concept that you do.“ And the guy runs it.

Two hours later, „You still got that?“

„Yeah – got the concept that I do.“ Two hours and fifteen minutes later, „You know I’m getting the idea that I don’t need this body!“

Well, you don’t just abandon it at that moment. You say, „All right, get the concept you don’t need the body.“ He’ll run that for an hour. „Now, get the concept you do need the body.“ He’s changed his mind again, flows reversed, you see? You’re not paying attention to the flow, you just hold the feeling and God knows what happens – or hold the concept, rather.

Now the feeling is quite different than the flow. Aesthetics are very good. You are right on solid ground and as far as by dichotomies, why, there’s nothing easier than dichotomies to run – positive and negative. I mean your flow comes one way, then goes the other way.

Dichotomy means yes and no – positive and negative. It says, for everything… now, somebody was saying, „How would you run Agree and Disagree on having?“ Well, get your agreement to have, get your disagreement in having – positive and negative. And you’ll get flows and they’ll flow around. Of course, that’s slow freight. Actually running flows and that sort of things or running engrams has this… has a bug in it, as a process, and why it was always a slow process.

The preclear has to postulate that he’s an effect of them before he has anything happen to him. He has to say, „All right, now I know that it’s there,“ and maybe this is just admitting it’s there. But at the same time he’s waiting to be an effect of an energy flow, never a cause of an energy flow.

So you’re processing somebody down scale, and when you’re running mock-up processing you’re postulating your preclear as cause continually, and never as an effect.

He says, „Now look,“ he says. „I keep getting these mock-ups!“ He says, „My God, do you know the back of my neck is about to burn! I can just feel the flames coming on… off of it!“

And you say, „Well, no, no, no. That’s just all right. All right, now get this anchor and put it back through the bottom of the boat. Now lift it up. All right, all right. It’s a lot of work.

„You know, my neck…!“

You say, „We’re worried about an anchor. Now how about that?“

Now don’t think, really, that your mock-up has to be very similar to the ill the person is running, because as he gets better and better, you can test whether he’s getting better and better because at first when you’ve got Mama, you had Mama – identification, see? Mock-up identified with reality. And then next you could… you could get something dressed up in women’s clothes and so forth, vaguely the same period, and that could be called Mama. And then… he’s perfectly satisfied with that. Now the next time he gets something and he’s got a broomstick. And he can… he can call that Mama. And now the next thing he’s got out in front of him there, uh… he’s got a… his mother never had anything to do with church and he’s got a hymn book. And he can call that Mama. And then he’s got a crumpled-up sheet of paper – no significance, you understand. I mean there’s no symbolized association.

Now, Freudian psychoanalysis halted people in the association band. It at least permitted them to associate instead of identify, and then stopped them in that band, by insisting that it was an association and that their symbolizations associated with real life. And then having gotten them into that band, took them downband again by making them agree.

And if the IQ were ever taken on a patient undergoing psychoanalysis, daily tests – that sort of thing – if there’d ever been any thorough work done on this field…

You think I’m just being sarcastic. Well, for any field to stand around and pretend we do thorough research. Oh, my God! They never did any. You look in the books and all you’ll find is opinions, opinions, opinions, opinions, opinions. „Where’s the data? How many people were run to get this opinion?“

„Well, we never ran anybody on that opinion that’s… the aesthetics wouldn’t let us. Let’s go into the aesthetics before we go into any reason. Let’s not get to the aesthetics afterwards.“

Uh… and – by the way, what’s wrong with most young writers is when they’re trying to make this society agree with them and buy their stuff. They fail to get a reasonable bone structure with which to be aesthetic. And they insist on being aesthetic without a bone structure.

Psychoanalysis did that – Freudian psychoanalysis insisted on being very aesthetic, without any guts. And uh… they didn’t know what this was and yet they tried to dress it up. This society and Man at the state he was, wouldn’t stand for this. And that is not just the failure of psychoanalysis. I would not say it failed – it never got started.

Anyway uh… the point we’re having for supper tonight is simply this little slight datum. And that is that you want your preclear to be cause all the distance you can, so even though he starts to get into a period… First he’s identifying. He has to see Mama in the mock-up to have Mama in the mock-up. Mama has to be live and breathing and everything before he’s… she’s really satisfied that he’s there. Of course, if he’s negative, he can’t even get Mama in the mock-up, it’s below that.

And then he gets a broomstick and then he gets a prayer book and then he has a crumpled piece of paper. And then he’s… he tells you he’s got a whup. And you say, „What’s a whup?“

He says, „Well, you can’t see it. Well, yes, you can. See?“ And you look at this thing, and it’s a nice piece of Picasso design work – that’s Mama. No significance.

DON’T EVER, ever, ever, ever, ever, exclamation point, underscore, in italics in 18 points caps, ASK YOUR PRECLEAR TO EVALUATE WHAT HIS MOCK-UP MEANS IN TERMS OF REALITY. If you do that, you have missed the whole point of 8008. You’ve just missed the whole cockeyed show.

Never ask him… you… you know damn well, you say, „Isn’t that interesting? Every time we talk about his boyhood he gets this factory chimney – ha! Phallic symbolism. Every time we do.“

Well, you know something? If you were to suddenly point this out to him or have him find it out, you know he’d go down tone scale on a meter and in IQ. The work in this field has been carefully done – extremely carefully done. And I wish somebody had done that careful work before, because I had to do a lot of work that should have been done.

That made me mad, by the way. I got awful mad about that. But… I went on a tearing fury about five years ago. I found out all of a sudden there wasn’t any statistical data in the field of psychoanalysis. And I – unhhhh! It’s been in existence since 1894 and nobody’s ever done statistics. And I kept asking people and I went around to psychological departments and I went around to other people and they said, „Why, no. It doesn’t exist.“ And they said, „Well, we have experimental psychology.“

And I said, „No, no, no, no, no. I want to know what’s happening in the field of psychoanalysis. I’m not interested in anything else. Now where’s the statistics?“ Ummmph!

I’ll be damned if I didn’t have to sit down and for 30 days – I would have been much rather out there pushing a car on the desert, or I would have been much happier down in a hotspot or someplace else. I have to sit down and run people on libido theories.

You say, „Well now, how is your guilt“ – and by the way, I did this very well. I’m very well educated and so on. „Yes, Mrs. Jones. Yes, life has been hard for you, hasn’t it. Well, now supposing you just go on talking. Uh-huh. Just go on talking – that’s right. Just go on talking some more.“

And you all of a sudden said, „Oh again. What was that again?“

„Ohhhh, why, you seem to be fixated on the Grand Canyon. You’ve mentioned the Grand Canyon eight times. Now what does the Grand Canyon mean to you? Oh? Tch-tch-tch-tch-tch.“ Just go ahead on this line.

Now let’s find out that – I… I didn’t know what I was doing to this degree: I didn’t know a lot of things, but I knew this, that I could get people who had had analysis, whose college within the last three or four years, had been – therefore psychometry was fully in existence at the moment of their leaving college – who had then had an analysis.

God! Getting the statistics together took about 30 days of precious time and the statistics were damning! Oh, they were just grim! Terrible! It said 25% of them went spinny. Hah!

It said some percentage I won’t mention committed suicide because of it. And you know where the gimmick is? They, made the patient agree with the real universe and it spun him in. And they showed him that every dream he had, every dream he ever could have was really caused by the real universe. And that he wasn’t free to have an illusion of his own, but that every illusion was motivated by the real universe. And that’s a control operation that kills them. It slaughters them in their tracks. That’s right.

So, don’t ever let me catch you pulling the same operation. The course runs the opposite direction entirely, Get them to disagree with the MEST universe. And not even by fighting it, just „to hell with it!“

And you’ll find out their differentiation above the association level – they differentiate more and more and more and more and more and more – until there isn’t any relationship between what they’re mocking up and the MEST universe.

Okay. Let’s call it an afternoon.

Hope you’ve learned something this afternoon.

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